Meanwhile, @testingpens over on #twitter:
„Wondering about Android and Apple phone security? Here's an objective chart to help you decide:“
That's not objective. It's missing LineageOS on all Android devices, short cycle security updates, long term support.
Exactly. And after EOL iPhones become the least secure phones in the market because you can't even run a new web engine on them. My backup phone is 6+-year-old Samsung S4 Mini. I can run the latest Android (LineageOS) or latest browser (Firefox) on it. Show me that with a 6-year-old iPhone.
@jwildeboer @erAck I'm not defending the Android vendors. I'm just saying that unlike iPhone Android devices are not usually completely lock-down which has a positive effect on security because it allows me to switch to something that has timely updates and lifetime exceeds the iPhone's. My laptop came with Windows. Do I care about Windows security? Not at all because I installed an OS of my choice the first day I got it.
@jwildeboer @erAck Yeah, lifetimes, not releasing updates at all or with delays in months is bad, on the other hand comparing response times of an open source and closed source system is always a bit "apples and oranges". Security issues in open systems are typically publicly disclosed earlier while in proprietary software it's often when the fix is made available... or never.
@jwildeboer If people use this chart to decide what phone to buy, this is relevant. If they are educated about the possibility to install LineageOS to get access to OEM- and carrier-independent, frequent updates over a long support period, they might choose that instead of iOS where if their phone is EOL'd by Apple, there is nothing they can do except buying a new phone.
Heise Preisvergleich even has a filter on LineageOS support, https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?cat=umtsover&xf=162_LineageOS+Support
@erAck @colomar @sesivany Yes. And their latest blog entry is from November last year and contains the not-so-reassuring "This week we are dropping a number of 14.1 devices which maintainers are absent or not interested in maintaining them anymore." I am simply not convinced that LineageOS is a consumer-ready replacement for a relevant subset of Android users. But that's IMHO, nothing more.
@erAck How would adding LineageOS change the numbers on official vendor support for security updates?
Certainly not on official vendor support. The chart's title is "Global security update availability for Smartphones". Phones running LineageOS still receive security updates after being delisted by the vendor.
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