The EU #TaxTheRich petition has failed to gather 1 million signatures. Germany, France and Denmark were the only countries to cross the line. That tells you how many people can actually be mobilised for real change to our system. I am very disappointed. https://eci.ec.europa.eu/038/public/#/screen/home/disabled 1/3
And sure, there will be justifications on why this happened. That it was the wrong group of people leading the initiative. That it wasn't promoted the right way. It's always easy to criticise afterwards. But where were you when you could have added your knowledge and experience to make it work? Or at the very least inform your friends? I tried to promote and mobilise. Had the link pinned to my profile. 2/3
So. Let's all bookmark https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/_en (or in your preferred language) and keep an eye on new European Citizen Initiatives (and maybe start one!) because they can really help to put topics on the EU agenda. Deal? :) 3/3
@jwildeboer ze hebben geen RSS feed :-(
@jwildeboer I tried to sign it two times, but the procedure was quite annoying. I don't even remember if I managed to validate it or not. I think it was a major problem and for sure some people (even motivated) just let it down at some point.
@antoinechev @jwildeboer hmm what was annoying there? And from which country are you? (It often totally depends.)
AFAIK you just need to enter address details. You can try that with any other good #eci and as indicated by the OP it's always good to look and sign other good ECIs too.
@rugk @jwildeboer hi, I'm from Belgium ! What is an eci ?
@jwildeboer Guilty :/
I've signed it but I did forget to spread the word outside the (already well informed) fediverse bubble, especially not the analogue world through direct communications, flyers, stickers and so on...
I have no knowledge or experience mobilizing people in Finland, or Italy, or any of the other countries that had potential.
Mobilizing in already well-covered countries (as, in my case, Germany) only goes so far.
@jwildeboer I would've signed, but this is the first time I've heard about such petition.
interesting how different the experiences are, I read about this initiative at least 10 different times in the fediverse
@Mab_813 @tylnesh @jwildeboer the "Stop Destroying Videogames" that I've seen plenty. Depends on the bubble you are trying to be inside.
@onion @Mab_813 @jwildeboer Well, I see the SKG initiative everywhere, although that is understandable as I’ve been following Ross Scott for years.
@onion @Mab_813 @tylnesh @jwildeboer
Depends on the people in the various bubbles and how conscious they are about how SocMedia works, and how to use the workings to benefit official EU petitions.
Most people go like
a) I'm not a EU citizen, ..
b) I already signed it, ..
c) my country has achieved the quorum, ..
d) already shared a post concerning this petition twice,
,... so I don't share the post.
Most posts I saw linking to this petition did not mention that it was an official one that leads to (debate about) EU legislation. Also, most posts did not include the information that the famous inequality researcher Thomas #Piketty started it.
So it's basic human stupidity why this petition has failed to become legislation.
I have resigned into hopelessness. We on the whole are too decadent to get mobilised sufficiently.
Which leaves doing the necessary for preventing civilisation collapse before 2040 to today's decision makers in journalism, economy and politics.
But there are milestones and deadlines in this project. And one is running out the end of this year, with no country nor region showing signs of having understood the stakes and project requirements.
@jwildeboer @svenja I'm a bit surprised that there's visible East-West divide, except for Slovakia and Portugal.
@xgebi @jwildeboer @svenja Still hyped about not being behind the iron curtain and being able to actually own things.
At the same time we have too little time as everyone is busy working, mowing their lawn and doing other american dream stuff. Hard work will surely make us millionaires.
The soviet spirit of corruption and distrusting the government still runs strong.
@jwildeboer never even heard about it until now.
@jwildeboer I signed and promoted, and yes, I am disappointed too. If a low-effort aciton like this has so little success, a European general strike or something like that is a world away.
@jwildeboer The most people are constantly moaning about how bad everything is. But that’s all they are doing. And that’s the problem. That shows the politicians that they can do what ever they want.
Nobody is lifting up their lazy arse. So frustrating.
@jwildeboer Peasant mentality it is called.
@jwildeboer It's like the Scottish Referendum and the EU referendum here in the UK, a failure to make the positive case. People sit and think "surely this is obvious" and then it turns out it isn't obvious at all and there will be arguments and you just have to push your boat out at some point and explain in detail, and even more detail, in simple words WHY anything is a good idea and be prepared for arguments against.
Or in this case people putting themselves in rich shoes and not wanting tax
@jwildeboer ,we need to try again soon
Unfortunately my country committed a profound act of stupidity so I couldn't sign.
@jwildeboer I doubt it's so clear-cut: rather, I think it tells you how difficult it is to mobilise that many people.
@jwildeboer Fortunately in Europe we have enough knowledgeable people in economics for them to know how bad for economy are all those taxes. Starting a business is almost impossible as it is and people recognize how bad it would be to scare investors even more.
Short term gain is not always beneficial in the long run.
@jwildeboer That is sad. Your post is the first I heard of it, but then I'm no longer in the EU, so that doesn't actually matter.